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HimalayaNet Archives (May 2003 and earlier)
HimalayaNet #61 (August 15, 1999)

Namaste, and welcome to the 61st edition of HimalayaNet, the online
newsletter of the Himalayan Explorers Club.

The HEC would like to congratulate Carrie Seitz and Scott Douglas, who
recently announced their engagement! Carrie has been working as the HEC
intern and HimalayaNet moderator, and many of you remember her from the
Clubhouse in fall 1997. Unfortunately, Carrie is now to busy to moderate
HimalayaNet, so once again we are in need of a new moderator. Please contact
us if you are interested!

Also, lots of questions below from HEC members planning trips to the
Himalayas.

And finally, thanks to Tom Fitzgerald for his editing assistance in a past
edition of Himalayan News.

Please remember to send all contributions to himnet@hotmail.com. Please
also remember to include your membership number if you'd like to post a
message.

Namaste!

Scott Dimetrosky
Director
Info@hec.org

IN THIS ISSUE:

1. LOVE AND MARRIAGE: HIMALAYANET NEEDS NEW MODERATOR!
2. HEC AWARDED GRANT FROM JON KRAKAUER'S EVEREST '96 MEMORIAL FUND
3. HEC MEMBERS LOOKING FOR TRAVELING COMPANIONS
4. FOLLOW-UP ABOUT HYRDOGEN PEROXIDE: DO NOT USE FOR HIGH ALTITUDE
5. SEEKING INFORMATION ON USE OF TINNITUS AT HIGH ALTITUDE
6. NEPAL GOVERNMENT BANS 3-WHEELERS IN KATHMANDU
7. SEEKING SUPPORT TO IMPROVE HIMALAYAN RESCUE ASSOCIATION PHERICHE POST
8. STATE DEPARTMENT WARNING FOR TRAVEL ABROAD
9. TRAVEL QUESTIONS FROM HEC MEMBERS
9A. SEEKING RECENT INFORMATION ON LADAKH
9B. BEST WAY TO GET FROM DELHI TO NEPAL?
9C. QUESTIONS ABOUT ROLWALING AND LANGTANG
9D. HOW TO BEST AVOID CROWDS AND MAXIMIZE EXPOSURE TO NEPALI CULTURE?
9E. HAS ANYONE HEARD OF THE COMPANY NEPAL VISION?
9F. BEST WAY TO GET TO POKHARA AND CHITWAN?
9G. QUESTIONS ABOUT ANNAPURNA AND MUSTANG
10. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELER BOOKSTORE SPONSORSHIP

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1. LOVE AND MARRIAGE: HIMALAYANET NEEDS NEW MODERATOR!

While the HEC was thrilled to learn about the recent engagement of Carrie
Seitz, we were sorry to find out that her schedule was now too busy for her
to moderate HimalayaNet. Planning a mountain wedding in Crested Butte, a
remote honeymoon in Alaska, and starting a new teaching position in Golden
will keep her busy during the next year. So, we ask all Himalayan
aficionados: is anyone interested in moderating HimalayaNet? It only takes
about one hour a week, and keeps you in touch with over 2,100 Himalayan
enthusiasts throughout the world. Anyone interested, please contact the HEC
at info@hec.org

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2. HEC AWARDED GRANT FROM JON KRAKAUER'S EVEREST '96 MEMORIAL FUND

The HEC would like to thank Jon Krakauer for awarding us a grant from the
Everest '96 Memorial Fund. The fund was established with proceeds from his
best-selling book "Into Thin Air". The HEC will use the grant to update our
Web page and place our Nepal Volunteer Handbook online.

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3. HEC MEMBERS LOOKING FOR TRAVELING COMPANIONS

Looking for someone to hike the Annapurna circuit in mid to late October for
3-3 1/2 weeks. Will be in SE ASIA prior to Nepal but I can be reached at
ksworld2our000@hotmail.com My current plan is to fly into Khatmandu on the
16th of October and fly out to Hong Kong on the 18th of November. I would
love to trek with others!! Please contact me. Katie

Looking for companion to complete Northern traverse of the Himalayas.
Kathmandu-Mt. Kailash-Kashgar-Hunza-Rawalpindi. Older gentlemen looking for
an experienced trekking companion share expenses of 4+ weeks of great
adventure in May 2000 with services of guide and jeep. Please call Stan
Golderg at 303-443-9959 (fax 303-442-0652) if you are interested.

Is anyone going to Mustang this fall? My name is Jill and I am an amiable
well traveled photojournalist hoping to hook up with a small group making
the Mustang journey, starting early September, (or later). Please contact me
at tseringd@pacific.net.sg. Thanks Jill

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4. FOLLOW-UP ABOUT HYRDOGEN PEROXIDE: DO NOT USE FOR HIGH ALTITUDE

In issue #59 of HimalayaNet Michael Buccilli suggested taking foodgrade
hydrogen peroxide H2O2 to overcome some of the problems of high ascents.
Anthony Borel responded in HimalayaNet #60:

WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! DO NOT consume hydrogen peroxide totreat
oxygen deprivation. This recommendation is HARMFUL AND COMPLETELYUNFOUNDED.

Anthony Borel is correct. Not only is this dangerous and would not give any
extra oxygen (since it would form in the gastrointestinal tract and not in
the lungs as Anthony Borel says), but the quantity of oxygen would be
insignificant. I hope nobody tries this idea.

Ken Zafren, MD, FACEP
Associate Medical Director (North America) Himalayan Rescue Association
10181 Curvi St.
Anchorage, AK 99516 USA

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5. SEEKING INFORMATION ON USE OF TINNITUS AT HIGH ALTITUDE

I would like to hear from anyone having knowledge about tinnitus at high
altitude or having had such an experience. If you also know of any weblinks
to the subject I will very thankful to receive them. Thanks.

Gonzalo Velez
rotas@rotasdovento.pt

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6. NEPAL GOVERNMENT BANS 3-WHEELERS IN KATHMANDU

On July 22, the Nepal government voted for a complete ban on the operation
of the diesel operated 3-wheelers (known also as blue tempos). The ban will
be effective from the middle of September. These diesel vehicles contributed
to the excessive air pollution in Kathmandu, and the government hopes that
the ban will be a step towards improving the air quality of Nepal's most
populous city.

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7. SEEKING SUPPORT TO IMPROVE HIMALAYAN RESCUE ASSOCIATION PHERICHE POST

In March-April, 1999, my adult son and I trekked in the Everest region.
Anyone who has trekked in Nepal knows of the wonderful services provided by
the HRA(The Himalayan Rescue Association). This volunteer group provides
medical services to trekkers and local people and is staffed with Doctors
(who are not paid) from Europe and North America. The HRA has aid posts at
Manang on the Annapurna circuit, and at Pheriche, on the route to Everest.

However, the post at Pheriche is old and in need of repair or replacement.
Money is tight. So, while meditating on a particularly challenging stretch
of trail, the "light" went on. Why not recruit "This Old House" to refurbish
the aid station at Pheriche? What a great idea, I thought, and my son and
most others we mentioned this to on the trail, agreed. So, I e-mailed TOH
(contact@thisoldhouse.org) and urged them to consider this as a project. The
reply - an e-mail form letter saying that I had to snail mail to get any
consideration. So, I did. The reply - a postcard. Now-I can't say that I am
optimistic that they will go all that way to rebuild a rock structure-but,
who knows.

So, let's see if we can get an E-MAIL CAMPAIGN going to TOH. It's easy to do
and who knows, it might just work. You could be the next person who needs
their Gamow bag! Think about it!

Namaste-Gib Clark
gjclark@telusplanet.net
P.S. The snail mail address is:
This Old House
c/o WGBH Educational Foundation
125-Western Avenue
Boston, MA 02134

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8. STATE DEPARTMENT WARNING FOR TRAVEL ABROAD

The Department of State reminds American citizens worldwide of the need to
remain vigilant with regard to their personal security. The department is
not issuing this public announcement in response to any one particular
threat or event but to emphasize its ongoing concern for the security of
Americans overseas. In addition to our overall concern, there is always the
possibility that terrorists may take action against Americans and American
interests on or around significant dates such as the anniversaries of the
August 7, 1998 terrorist bombings of our embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar
es Salaam, Tanzania, and the August 20, 1998 U.S. strikes against terrorist
targets in Afghanistan and Sudan.

The Department of State continues to receive reports that prompt concern
about the safety and security of both official U.S. Government personnel and
private American citizens. We take this information seriously. As a result,
security has been increased at U.S. government facilities worldwide. At
times, a number of our posts have had to temporarily suspend or limit
services to the public, and others may have to do so in the future. U.S.
citizens traveling or residing abroad are urged to review their security
practices, to remain alert to the changing situation, and to exercise
caution.

In addition, terrorists, including Usama Bin Laden (who has been indicted
for the 1998 bombings in Africa and for threatening to kill American
citizens outside the United States), continue their threats against the
United States and have not distinguished between military and civilian
targets. The potential also exists for retaliatory acts against U.S.
citizens in response and to the U.S. worldwide pursuit and apprehension of
terrorist suspects.

Americans should keep a low profile, vary routes and times for all required
travel, and treat mail from unfamiliar sources with suspicion.

American citizens traveling or residing abroad should contact the nearest
U.S. Embassy or Consulate by telephone or fax for up-to-date information on
security conditions. In addition, U.S. citizens planning to travel abroad
should consult the Department of States public announcements, travel
warnings, consular information sheets, and regional travel brochures.

This public announcement supersedes the June 10, 1999 "Worldwide Caution"
public announcement, and supplements the June 22, 1999 "Worldwide Caution
Kurdish Reaction" public announcement to update the information and to note
that there is always a possibility for terrorist actions on or around
significant dates. This public announcement expires on November 4, 1999.

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9. TRAVEL QUESTIONS FROM HEC MEMBERS

Note: Please respond directly to the HEC member. And, members, please
summarize all helpful responses so we can post them in a future issue of
HimalayaNet.

9A. SEEKING RECENT INFORMATION ON LADAKH

Does anyone have current information on visiting Ladakh? My plans are to fly
to Delhi and then up to Leh to see the monasteries along the Indus river, ie
Lamayuru, Basgo, Alchi, Rizong, Likir, Hemis, Shey, Thikse etc. then to take
the road south over the Taglang La to Tabo and eventually Manali, Mandi, and
Chandigard. Is travel to Leh allowed? Is the road south from Leh over the
passes open? Has anyone done this trip this year or since the fighting
started in Dras and Mulbeck? Indeed, any information out there would be most
welcome. I've been to Leh twice so I know the territory but I don't know the
military or road situation.
Many thanks.
Robert Burns, rob14.burns@juno.com


9B. BEST WAY TO GET FROM DELHI TO NEPAL

Just joined the Himalayan Explorers Club and am hoping to go from Delhi to
Nepal by land. Also hoping to stop in Varanasi & Bodhgaya en route. Please
share any past experiences or tips. What's the best way to do this? What
should it cost? Is it possible?
Thank you,
Paul, pauliwop@hotmail.com


9C. QUESTIONS ABOUT ROLWALING AND LANGTANG

(1) I would like to hear from people who have crossed the Trashi Lapcha
pass between Rolwaling and Khumbu. I hope to cross from Rolwaling to
Khumbu in early November 1999. I would like to know how much trouble
others have had crossing the pass with porters. Might it require rapelling
off ice screws or fixing lines for porters? How serious is the rockfall
hazard?

(2) I would like to hear from experienced climbers who may be interested in
sharing the cost of a trekking peak permit for climbing Ramdung Peak and
the cost of a self-contained trekking staff for traveling through Rolwaling
during the last 3 weeks of October 1999.

(3) I would like to hear from people who have climbed Yala Peak in
Langtang. I would like to know how serious the glacier is on this climb so
I can plan whether or not to bring full crevasse rescue gear and look for
an experienced partner.

(4) How might the Nepal versions of ciprofloxicin or norfloxicin compare
to the U.S. pharmaceutical grade in terms of quality?

Please reply on email by mid-September to: cbrogers@socrates.berkeley.edu


9D. HOW TO BEST AVOID CROWDS AND MAXIMIZE EXPOSURE TO NEPALI CULTURE?

#1)I am going to spend 4 weeks trekking the Annapurna circuit beginning
October 8 of this year. I am learning some Nepali in hopes of staying in
homes instead of the tea-houses wherever possible. What else can I do to
maximize my experience of Nepali culture and life and minimize the
inevitable contact with other trekkers? I am a single woman & will either
hire a female guide or hook up with a like-minded trekker in Khatmandu.

#2)In addition to Helambu, what other areas can I trek through, either in
addition to or instead of Annapurna, that do not require self-sufficiency,
where I can maximize my experience of Nepali culture and life and minimize
my contact with hordes of other trekkers?

#3) Okay. Annapurna, four weeks, October. What clothing did YOU take and
what did you actually use?

#4)Any advice on choosing a guide OR anyone have the name and/or contact
information for a particular guide you loved?

#5)My mother would love to know that her globe-trotting daughter is going to
be safe. So if any of you have the inclination, please feel free to pop her
a reassuring e-mail at mumsy@hermanfamily.org.
Thank you!
Leih, herman.petunia@hermanfamily.org


9E. HAS ANYONE HEARD OF THE COMPANY NEPAL VISION?

Has anyone heard of the company Nepal Vision? I am doing a trek with them
and as a single woman and would like some feed back if anyone has any.
Thanks!
Doris, dklingbe@epsb.net


9F. BEST WAY TO GET TO POKHARA AND CHITWAN?

Looking at second trip to Nepal, April 2000, this time Annapurna region.
First hand knowledge appreciated regarding inter-country travel from KTM to
Pokhara (probably take bus) and 10-12 day teahouse route with no more than 2
steep days(wife doesn't want more than that). Also, options from Pokhara to
Chitwan. Any other random thoughts appreciated.
Doug Kelley, dkelley@avistacorp.com


9G. QUESTIONS ABOUT ANNAPURNA AND MUSTANG

I'm going trekking in Nepal with a buddy, first 3 weeks of March, 2000.
Right now, I'm leaning towards Annapurna. I'm considering doing Pokhara to
Josom, and possibly on to Mustang. Questions:
1) Will this popular trek be insanely crowded that time of year?
2) Is it a good idea (if we go from Pokhara to Jomsom) to fly out of Jomsom
back to Khatmandu, to avoid backtracking? Are there lots of good side trips
along the way?
3) Is it worth going on to Mustang? Could we take care of the logistical
arrangements from Pokhara, or would we need to do so in Khatmandu?
4) Any other suggestions for trekking routes that time of year? We're both
in good shape, and have had plenty of backcountry experience, though we're
not planning on doing this trip self-supported. And while I hate to admit
it, this will probably be the only time in our lives that we get to Nepal
(at least for the next twenty or thiry years).
Thanks a bunch for the help,
Chris, hawkins@eden.com

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10. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELER BOOKSTORE SPONSORSHIP

This newsletter is sponsored in part by www.AdventurousTraveler.com.
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VOLUNTEER/STUDY ABROAD

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HEC's "Volunteer Nepal Himalaya" offers participants a unique opportunity
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